Talk:Marine Headquarters/Devil Fruit Committee/@comment-3387274-20111107103424

Enough is Enough people. We need to be clear on what defines a logia, because right now we've cracked down too hard. A logia is defined as turning into a naturally occuring element, but we're currently ruling out anything that isn't a Force of nature. This has been accpeted as a definition becuase Ice ages, Sandstrorms, Thunderstorms, and volcanaoes are Forces of nature, so apparently every cannon logia is one . But that's not how it works. Crocodile's power isn't sandstorms, it's sand in general. Aokiji is just an ice manipulator who freezes things. And the Magu Magu no Mi is just lava with the pottential to make something like a volcano. Smoke is the first logia that was seen, and that is not a force of nature, and not even something that would normally occur naturally. if we accept non cannon as valid, then CANDY qualifies as logia, and that's not fully natural. Right now, we're drawing the line so finely that Blood and Bone are being ruled out of the logia cattegory, and those occur naturally more often than smoke than smoke. I'd accpeted our rather tight definition up until now becuase we were at least being reasonable, but saying that the Hone Hone no Mi isn't a logia is utterly ridiculous.