Talk:Shinto Shinto no Mi/@comment-24070327-20170911161226/@comment-3387274-20170929164509

that would be because the Nande Nande does objects, not materials, and doesn't take a shape the user wants if it's not something they memorized, so there's a divide there. You're right about the logia aspect of the Teiku Teiku. I hadn't noticed the possibility of permenantly memorizing materials with that one, but I assumed it wasn't possible, because usually it isn't with that kind of power. I'm not entirely sure it works, but there is grounds for some leeway given what has happened once or twice in canon.